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Western Balkan Youth Migration

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I am personali leaving this country to go study biology in Germany, they offer much advenced prpgram and better labs, our bigest problme (at least in serbia) is low budget for uni. They look awful and they offer limited oportunitis for reserch and practice. :|
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simonav wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:21 pm I am personali leaving this country to go study biology in Germany, they offer much advenced prpgram and better labs, our bigest problme (at least in serbia) is low budget for uni. They look awful and they offer limited oportunitis for reserch and practice. :|
I completely understand your point of view, and I agree with you. The lack of funding for universities in Serbia is a huge issue, and it directly affects the quality of education, research opportunities, and overall student experience. Many students feel like they have no choice but to leave if they want access to better labs, more advanced programs, and real research opportunities.
It’s frustrating because there’s so much potential here, but without proper investment in higher education, it’s hard to compete with universities in countries like Germany. Better funding would mean better facilities, more hands-on experience, and a stronger future for students who want to stay. But until that happens, I completely understand why studying abroad feels like the best option. It’s a tough decision, but one that makes sense when you’re thinking about your future.
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simonav wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:21 pm I am personali leaving this country to go study biology in Germany, they offer much advenced prpgram and better labs, our bigest problme (at least in serbia) is low budget for uni. They look awful and they offer limited oportunitis for reserch and practice. :|
Living in Albania has been tough, especially when it comes to housing and educashun. Rent is ridiculously high for the condition of the apartments, and with the wages here, it’s hard to afford anything decent. Most of the places are old and need repairs, but they still cost so much. It feels like there's no escape from the high prices, and it's really frustrating when you can barely find something livable within a budget.
As for university, the situation isn’t much better. The buildings are outdated, and there’s not much investment in new resources or research. We don’t get the same opportunities as students in other countries when it comes to practical learning or real research experience. It feels like the system is stuck, and I’ve started thinking about leaving to study somewhere with better facilities and opportunities. It’s hard to see any hope for change here when everything seems so limited.
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I don’t really agree that living costs are as high as some say, and I think universities in the Western Balkans are doing fine. Sure, rent prices might be a little higher in some places, but overall it’s not as bad as people make it sound. There are still many affordable options, and if you plan carefully, it’s possible to find something decent within your budget.
As for the universities, I believe they offer solid education. Sure, there are areas to improve, but the professors are dedicated, and there are still plenty of opportunities to learn and grow. It’s not all doom and gloom like some people suggest.
And I don’t think people are really moving out of the Western Balkans that rapidly. Yes, there are some who leave, but many still stay for various reasons, whether it's family, work, or just a sense of connection to their home country. It's easy to focus on the negative, but there’s a lot of potential here, and people aren't just packing up and leaving in droves.
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irina06 wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:57 pm I don’t really agree that living costs are as high as some say, and I think universities in the Western Balkans are doing fine. Sure, rent prices might be a little higher in some places, but overall it’s not as bad as people make it sound. There are still many affordable options, and if you plan carefully, it’s possible to find something decent within your budget.
As for the universities, I believe they offer solid education. Sure, there are areas to improve, but the professors are dedicated, and there are still plenty of opportunities to learn and grow. It’s not all doom and gloom like some people suggest.
And I don’t think people are really moving out of the Western Balkans that rapidly. Yes, there are some who leave, but many still stay for various reasons, whether it's family, work, or just a sense of connection to their home country. It's easy to focus on the negative, but there’s a lot of potential here, and people aren't just packing up and leaving in droves.
I can see where you’re coming from, and I agree with some of the points you made. It’s true that rent prices might not be as high everywhere, and if you plan well, you can find affordable options. However, in many larger cities, the rent prices are rising quickly, and it can still be difficult for young people, especially with low wages, to find something decent without going into debt.
As for universities, I do think there’s room for improvement. While professors are dedicated, and education can be solid in certain areas, the lack of funding and limited resources are significant issues. Many students here face challenges with outdated infrastructure, and the opportunities for hands-on learning or research are limited. It’s not just about having passionate professors; it’s also about providing the proper tools and opportunities for students to succeed.
I also agree with you that not everyone is leaving the Western Balkans in large numbers, and many people stay for family or work. But I think it’s important to acknowledge that more and more young people are considering moving abroad because of these challenges. The potential here is great, but it can be hard to overlook the lack of support in key areas like housing and education.
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dionadidi wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 3:17 pm
irina06 wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:57 pm I don’t really agree that living costs are as high as some say, and I think universities in the Western Balkans are doing fine. Sure, rent prices might be a little higher in some places, but overall it’s not as bad as people make it sound. There are still many affordable options, and if you plan carefully, it’s possible to find something decent within your budget.
As for the universities, I believe they offer solid education. Sure, there are areas to improve, but the professors are dedicated, and there are still plenty of opportunities to learn and grow. It’s not all doom and gloom like some people suggest.
And I don’t think people are really moving out of the Western Balkans that rapidly. Yes, there are some who leave, but many still stay for various reasons, whether it's family, work, or just a sense of connection to their home country. It's easy to focus on the negative, but there’s a lot of potential here, and people aren't just packing up and leaving in droves.
I can see where you’re coming from, and I agree with some of the points you made. It’s true that rent prices might not be as high everywhere, and if you plan well, you can find affordable options. However, in many larger cities, the rent prices are rising quickly, and it can still be difficult for young people, especially with low wages, to find something decent without going into debt.
As for universities, I do think there’s room for improvement. While professors are dedicated, and education can be solid in certain areas, the lack of funding and limited resources are significant issues. Many students here face challenges with outdated infrastructure, and the opportunities for hands-on learning or research are limited. It’s not just about having passionate professors; it’s also about providing the proper tools and opportunities for students to succeed.
I also agree with you that not everyone is leaving the Western Balkans in large numbers, and many people stay for family or work. But I think it’s important to acknowledge that more and more young people are considering moving abroad because of these challenges. The potential here is great, but it can be hard to overlook the lack of support in key areas like housing and education.
I get what you’re saying, and I see your point, but honestly, I don’t want to have to plan every little thing just to survive. I want to live comfortably, not constantly stress about rent or whether my job will cover basic needs. It shouldn’t be that hard to have a decent life without having to overthink every expense.
And when it comes to education, sure, there are good professors, but passion alone isn’t enough. If universities don’t have the right resources or funding, how are students supposed to actually get the skills they need? It’s frustrating to know that in other countries, students have access to modern labs and better research opportunities while here, we’re stuck making the best of what we have.
I also feel like appreciation is a big thing. People want to feel valued in their own country, whether it's in their job, their studies, or just life in general. If you’re working hard but still struggling to make ends meet, or if you’re studying but not getting the opportunities you deserve, it’s only natural to look for something better elsewhere. It’s not just about money—it’s about having a life where you feel respected and where your efforts actually lead to something.
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Honestly, I think another reason why some young people leave the Western Balkans is love. Like, not everything is about jobs or money—sometimes people just fall for someone from another country and decide to move. It’s way easier now with social media, travel, and studying abroad. You meet someone, build a connection, and suddenly, staying in your home country doesn’t feel like the best option anymore.
I know a few people who left not because they were struggling here, but because they wanted to be with their partner. And once you move for love, you start settling in, finding a job, maybe even realizing the opportunities there are better. So yeah, migration isn’t always about escaping bad conditions—sometimes it’s just about following your heart.
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there are a lot of cases, I mean look at the influenecesrs. throuhg their work they travel a lot. they fell in love try long distance but the end thet choose the country with better options and brigter future. this is just an example of something we can witnes online. but we all have an aunt or some relatives abroad. in 90 per cent of situations they are marid to the nativ of the country.
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makimasa wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:42 pm there are a lot of cases, I mean look at the influenecesrs. throuhg their work they travel a lot. they fell in love try long distance but the end thet choose the country with better options and brigter future. this is just an example of something we can witnes online. but we all have an aunt or some relatives abroad. in 90 per cent of situations they are marid to the nativ of the country.
Honestly this is funny but soo real one of the most famous sayings in literly aunt from Germany, Swizerland and Austria. :lol:
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Have you thought about how mentality plays a role in youth migration from the Western Balkans? It’s not always just about jobs or salaries—sometimes people leave because they just don’t feel like they fit in here. There’s still a pretty traditional mindset in a lot of places, and if you don’t really agree with that way of thinking, it can feel frustrating.
Like, if you want to build a career based on merit and skills, but you see that connections matter more, it’s easy to feel stuck. Or even just the social expectations—getting married young, staying close to family, following a certain “acceptable” path in life. Not everyone wants that, and maybe that’s part of why so many young people start looking for something different abroad.
It’s not that they hate their home country, but maybe they just want to live somewhere that aligns more with how they see life.
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Yeah, I think you’re totally right. It’s not always just about the economy—mentality plays a huge role too. If you feel like you don’t belong or that your values don’t match the society around you, it makes sense to look for a place where you fit in better.
I’ve heard a lot of people say they don’t see a future for themselves here, not because there aren’t any opportunities, but because they feel like they have to fight against the system just to get a fair chance. And yeah, the whole “this is how things have always been done” mentality can be really frustrating if you want something different for yourself.
At the same time, I guess it depends on the person. Some people adapt and make things work, while others just don’t want to deal with it and decide to leave. Either way, I don’t think it’s just about money—sometimes, it’s about finding a place where you actually feel comfortable being yourself.
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Sometimes, it’s not just about economic struggles or politics—some young people from the Western Balkans leave simply because they want adventure and new experiences. Growing up in smaller countries with fewer opportunities for travel, exposure, and cultural diversity can make many feel like they’re missing out on something bigger.
Moving abroad gives them the chance to experience a different way of life, meet people from various backgrounds, and challenge themselves in ways that staying home wouldn’t allow. Whether it’s studying in a different country, working in a more dynamic environment, or just wanting to live in a place with more cultural and social opportunities, the desire for something new can be a huge motivator.
For many, it’s not that they hate their home country—it’s just that they feel like they’ve seen everything it has to offer. The idea of living in a major global city, exploring different lifestyles, or just breaking out of routine can be exciting enough to make them pack up and leave. And once they experience life elsewhere, many never look back.
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Yeah, I actually know someone who did exactly that. A friend of mine left the Balkans not because of money or politics but simply because they wanted something new. They always felt like life here was too predictable—same routines, same people, same places. So, as soon as they had the chance, they moved to Berlin for university, not just for the education but for the experience of living in a bigger, more diverse city.
At first, they thought they might come back after a few years, but the more they traveled, met new people, and explored different cultures, the less they wanted to return. They told me that once you experience that kind of freedom and excitement, it’s hard to settle back into the slower pace of life here. It wasn’t about escaping problems—it was just about wanting more.
And honestly, I get it. Some people just need that change to feel like they’re truly living, and I can’t blame them for chasing it.
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Honestly, I’ve been thinking about doing the same thing. It’s not that I hate living here, but I just feel like I need to experience something different. The idea of being in the same place forever, seeing the same things every day—it just doesn’t sit right with me.
I want to live somewhere bigger, where things are always happening, where I can meet people from different backgrounds and really push myself out of my comfort zone. I’ve been looking into studying or working abroad, maybe somewhere like Germany or the Netherlands. Not just for better opportunities, but for the experience itself.
I know some people say it’s just a phase, that eventually, everyone wants to come back home. But what if I don’t? What if I actually find a place that feels more like home than here? I guess there’s only one way to find out.
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You know, I never really thought about it that way, but what you said actually made me consider it. I’ve always looked at moving abroad as something people do out of necessity—better jobs, higher salaries, escaping problems here. But the idea of leaving just for the experience, for the chance to live somewhere completely different, actually sounds exciting.
I mean, why not? We’re always told to settle down, plan everything, and think long-term, but maybe it’s worth just going somewhere new and seeing what happens. I don’t know if I’d stay forever, but the thought of trying it, even for a while, is starting to sound more appealing. Maybe it’s time to at least start looking into it.
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To which country would you like to go/live?
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If I were to move somewhere, a few countries come to mind, each for different reasons:
Germany – It has a strong economy, great job opportunities, and a solid education system. Plus, cities like Berlin and Munich have amazing cultural diversity, good public transport, and lots of things to do. I also like how work-life balance is taken seriously there.
Netherlands – The quality of life is really high, and Dutch cities are super well-organized. Everyone speaks English, so adjusting wouldn’t be too hard. Plus, the country is known for being open-minded and progressive, which makes it a good place to live comfortably.
Canada – The work opportunities are great, and the people are generally welcoming. Also, Canada offers a lot of nature, which is a huge bonus if you don’t want to be stuck in a crowded city all the time.
Portugal – It’s a bit underrated, but the cost of living is lower compared to other Western European countries. The weather is amazing, the people are friendly, and life there just seems more relaxed. If I wanted a slower, more peaceful lifestyle, I’d consider Portugal.
Australia – Since I’m already planning to study there, I see why so many people move there long-term. The job market is strong, the cities are vibrant, and the quality of life is really high. Plus, the idea of having warm weather most of the year is pretty appealing. ( I am moving in december)
Each of these places has something unique to offer, and honestly, the more I think about it, the more I feel like at least trying life somewhere new would be worth it.
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I totally get where you're coming from. Moving to Portugal compared to staying in the Western Balkans can definitely offer more opportunities. In the Western Balkans, there’s a lot of economic uncertainty, and jobs can be tough to come by, especially for young people. Rent prices are rising, and wages often aren’t enough to cover all expenses, which makes it harder to gain independence. Plus, universities sometimes struggle with outdated infrastructure and limited hands-on opportunities.
In Portugal, though, the job market is stronger, particularly in sectors like tech, tourism, and renewable energy. The cost of living is lower than in other Western European countries, so it’s easier to get by on a starting salary. On top of that, Portugal offers a much better work-life balance, which can be great for personal growth and well-being. You’d likely have more time to enjoy life outside of work, something that can be harder to achieve in fast-paced cities in the Western Balkans. So, overall, Portugal could offer more stability, career opportunities, and a healthier lifestyle for young people.
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In Albania, a lot of traditional values still dominate, especially in rural areas. There's a strong emphasis on family, which can be great, but it sometimes leads to a more conservative approach to things like gender equality or LGBTQ+ rights. People often feel pressured to stick to societal norms, and younger generations can feel stuck in this cycle, struggling to break away from tradition.
On the other hand, Portugal feels a lot more progressive in these areas. Social values there are more inclusive, with a real focus on equality and personal freedom. There’s much more acceptance of different lifestyles and a stronger emphasis on things like gender equality and LGBTQ+ rights. The culture is also more balanced, with a focus on enjoying life and spending time with loved ones, rather than just working all the time.
So, while Albania is still working through some of these changes, Portugal tends to offer a more open and inclusive environment overall.
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Every time I talk to friends, someone is either planning to leave or already abroad. It feels like the entire generation is migrating from the Western Balkans. I get it—better jobs, higher wages, and more opportunities. But what does this mean for our region? Why are so many young people leaving, and what are the long-term effects?
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